| September 16
Gil paraphrasing as quickly as possible...
"if this shooting had occurred in a black church, and a white
shooter was making racist expletives...'
"or if it were in a gay church, and the shooter was swearing
faggot this and faggot that..."
"Or women at an abortion center..."
"does anyone think the media wouldn't be covering this, wire-to-wire,
instead of a hurricane?"
Prior to this, DP predicted that within a week there would be calls
to forgive the shooter as further proof of "America's [and,
importantly, even the theistic's] broken moral compass." He's
right about that.
MSNBC headline: "Floyd soaks eastcoast, but causes little damage."
"so, Floyd doesn't even cause property damage worth calling
news, but 7 church goers are mowed down, and this doesn't warrant
coverage."
I don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of hearing DP trying
to provoke his audience. So far the only caller has been a reporter
from Dallas who I'm
sure DP called. It is 9:56AM.
Bob, Albany NY: Christians aren't PC, so maybe (I don't want to
say this) they're expendable. Maybe rightfully so. The underdog
will get the attention.
DP: the victim, whatever their wider membership, is the underdog
[made all the more so by govt policies].
DP calls for more carrying permits. "Is there anybody listening
who doubts that if people were armed there would have been less
murders at this church?"
Steve: Well the church shootings did make the front page of today's
LA Times. But remember, Floyd caused the biggest peacetime evacuation
in our history, over 1 million people. It's pretty hard to argue
that 7 people killed in Texas is a bigger story than Floyd.
And then there's Prager's and KABC's general silence on East Timor,
thousands of meaningless deaths i suppose.
But Prager has found his niche kissing white Christian ass. Since
the fall of Rome, white Christians have been oppressing, murdering,
and enslaving by the millions, the rest of the world (including
Jews) with overwhelming force. And Prager whines that the overlords
aren't getting their due? What a disingenuous propagandizing immoral
hack this man has become. And what a dangerous road he
travels.
He's actually said that Jewish children are better of in Catholic
schools than in the public schools of a secular democracy. Throughout
history Jews have often
found themselves in special relationships with the ruling classes
where they've lived. And every time there's strife and revolt, the
elite throw the Jews to the
angry peasants as an appeasement offering. All the while the Dennis
Prager's of the world simplistically dismiss the peasants as solely
anti-Semites while trying
to curry favor with the new ruling elites.
It works great when times are good, but when things go bad, like
Nazi Germany, look out... Better to be a true democrat, a true egalitarian,
and a true humanist, than to cozy up to the nobility, hoping the
ax will fall on someone else...
Jason: I heard a few callers today on other shows say that the
church shootings aren't getting the same level of coverage as the
day care shootings last month. I wonder how much of that is due
to Floyd (who picks these names? The next one is "Gert")
and how much is just distance. Not sure if the LA shootings were
big news in Texas.
September 10
2nd hr. Prager: If you want to lose all your friends, instill guilt.
Why didn't you call back? Why didn't you visit me? Etc... If it
bothers you that much, then that probably isn't the person you should
have as a friend.
Prager admits that he's bad at returning calls and sending cards
because he's so overwhelmed.
Prager spoke from a station in Miami, where he's conducting High
Holiday services.
Prager went to his 30th High School Reunion a couple of years ago.
He's only stayed in touch with one - Joseph Telushkin. Even though
Prager has positive feelings towards most of his class members.
Prager says there are foul weather friends as well as fair weather
friends. Many people are happier when things are going badly in
your life than when things are going well. A real friend celebrates
your victories and cries with you in your defeats.
Prager said a friend recently lost a parent and P. was at his house
every day for shiva (mourning).
Prager says there are two types of people - those who like to use
the phone and those who don't. Prager does not.
Gil writes: So, judging from your posting, you apparently missed
the first call.
A woman called in, saying some friends were currently not talking
to her, trying to instill guilt in her. She thought it was unreasonable.
DP asked her what transpired.
She told him that the friends had an internet site. That site dealt
with an illness she suffered from. They disclosed on the site that
she, BY NAME, had suffered, or had a procedure, or some such --either
she wasn't precise, understandably from embarrassment (or I missed
something, but from what followed, I don't think WHAT it was really
mattered). All without her permission. She complained to them that
she was embarrassed by it, and they should have known, and in any
case they should have asked her permission out of courtesy if for
no other reason. They said they assumed she wouldn't mind. That
it was a public service, that she of all people should welcome the
chance to help others. That it wasn't anything illegal they had
done. And now she was feeling guilty for having complained -- but
thought DP's subject pointed out exactly how she was feeling not
very friendly towards them right now.
DP said of course you should feel that way -- but not for the reason
he brought up. "With friends like this, who needs enemies,"
he laughed. [the following is not verbatim, but I will write them
as if DP were talking, because it sounds what I heard -- so beware
to not use them as quoted material]. They were friends, and it was
only because of that friendship that they knew about your condition.
They took personal knowledge and broadcast it to the world without
asking you for permission to do so. From what you tell me, their
assumption that you wouldn't mind was self-serving, helping them
justify to themselves their violation of your trust. A friend is
someone who you can confide in without worrying that it will go
any further. They owed it to your friendship that they would do
nothing as little as tell another person about you without your
explicit permission, let alone putting it on a web site. They are
trying to shift the guilt onto you -- you have nothing to feel guilty
about. Barring their complete turn around and removal from their
site all material that offends you, and deep felt apologies extended
to you, I wouldn't consider them friends any longer.
Los Angeles Jewish Journal
Dennis Prager writes to the Sept. 3, 1999 edition:
When I see my name or picture in the Jewish Journal, I turn to
my wife and say, "I wonder what they will get wrong?"
So, for the record, here is the latest: You write, "Among
those sympathizing with the latter (against gun control) was Prager,
who thought such laws would do little to curtail the proliferation
of readily available weapons. 'I think there's a values problem
in America,' said Prager." (Aug. 27)
The second half was accurate, the first inaccurate. I said at the
forum at the Simon Wiesenthal Center covered in your article, and
I say ever time I discuss the issue on my radio show, that I am
for gun control. I deem it horrible, for example, that some particularly
lethal weapons have been available to private citizens. I would
even advocate gun registration if concealed-weapon permits were
made more readily available to law-abiding citizens.
I also believe - as you correctly reported - that more gun control
will be largely useless, since the American problem with violence
is overwhelmingly a lack of criminal control, not a lack of gun
control. We do have total drug control, yet any American teenager
or adult can get any drug in a few hours.
Those who focus on guns as the primary problem are reminiscent
of those who believed during the Cold War that the threat to the
world lay in nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, not
in criminal regimes like the Soviet Union. They ignored the fact
that we had nothing to fear from nuclear weapons in French or British
hands, just as those who now focus on guns ignore the fact that
we have nothing to fear from guns in honorable Americans' hands.
The mindste that believes that inanimate objects, not human evil,
is the primary enemy of decency, is a dangerously naive one.
Dennis Prager in latest Hustler Erotic Video Guide
Page 20 of the latest Hustler Erotic Video Guide (Nov, 99) features
"One Extremely Fu--ed-Up Aussie's Opinion," where the
author skips the movies
and reviews the women. By Duke Cord:
Since this is the first time I've been allowed to write in
a medium outside of the Internet, I thought I might
spend a brief moment introducing myself to you. I am
an Australian born to a Seventh Day Adventist
preacher daddy and his cancer-ridden wife - my
mommy - who died when I was five. I have a lot of
anger inside of me because of this...to say nothing of
the fact that I desperately wanted to break into the
world of porn journalism and was shut out by every
editor this side of the San Fernando Valley which
foreced me to go on the attack on my Web Site,
dukecord.com. I hate all of you, by the way.
On the positive side, I am obsessed with second-rate
radio talk-show host Dennis Prager, who no one but
myself recognizes as one of the great Jewish
philosophers of out time. My daddy would disagree. I hate him and
want to shame him for allowing my
mommy to die. My lustful yearnings for Mr. Prager
and my hatred for my father inspired me to convert to
Judaism, a religion that allows me to wear funny little
hats and hobnob with pornographers who, if they
aren't Jews, are Italian mafiosi. I hate all of them too...
Unfortunately, my Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is starting to act up
again and I feel myself getting tired. I need to crawl into bed
where I can stare at the poster of Dennis Prager that I have taped
to my ceiling and leisurely stroke myself off imagining myself in
his tender arms while he whispers passages from the Torah in perfect
Hebrew just for me. Dennis, if you are reading this, please know
that my love for you knows no limits. Make me your bitch. I need
it bad.
Luke: My posting of that excerpt from HEVG had me kicked off the
unofficial Dennis Prager discussion list. List master Dana Archer
posted: "Luke's latest message to the list "Re: Luke:
Prager Parasite" has forced me to remove him from the list.
"This likely won't stop him from subscribing or lurking using
another address but I've done what I can."
Shannon responds: "Dana, as much as I treasure free, ribald
and even outrageous banter, I can't say I disagree with you. Dennis
is so much more easily attacked on his poorly thought through positions
and his disingenuousness that adolescent smut to
denigrate him is unnecessary and a very poor substitute for knee-to-the-groin
argument and criticism of the man. Dennis as a sex symbol? I'll
have a pint of what Luke has been drinking."
Steve Dietrich: "I'll miss Luke. We're all characters on this
list, and he is certainly a character. Besides he must have chased
away everyone who found him
offensive years ago. Still, it's not like he hadn't been warned,
several times."
August 31
Prager says there is an assault on modesty. It is not the task
of schools to provide sex ed. Certainly not in elementary school.
Maybe for 15 year olds. Prager opposes robbing kids of innocence.
2nd hour: Are American a bored people? Do we need more sex scenes
and violence? DP says it is a function of the boredom that pervades
American society.
Real boredom means there is nothing you want to do. Natan Scharansky,
in solitary confinment for months, was never bored.
Our amusement centered society creates boredom. The biggest solution
to boredom - a sense of purpose.
When kids are bored, they don't need a video game. That's a time
filler.
Go to a newsstand and the ratio of nonsense to sense, when DP was
a kid, was 50-50. Remember The Reporter? Today there are 72 journals
about the latest orgasm.
DP: I love sex but how many articles on a new spot found... A new
G spot...
You can't conquer boredom through new sensual experiences.
DP: To get debored, travel. I knew that early in my life. I've
been to 72 countries, all ten Canadian provinces and all 50 states.
If you travel to a place, you can care about it. When I hear about
Turkey, it hits me because I've been to Turkey.
DP: People become bored with people. On dates, don't talk about
TV shows. Talk about yourself.
We offer people excitement instead of meaning.
DP says that when his kids say they're bored, he gets angry. Find
something to do. Look out into space and think. Imagine things.
Play pretend. The worst thing to do is TV or Gameboy as solutions
to boredom.
We schedule our kids too much. That doesn't allow them to use their
imagination.
People need hobbies and passions.
DP: When I began my newsletter, I licked envelopes. That did not
bore me because I was licking envelopes for my start up business.
Any of you who've started a business know that this is exciting...
On the other hand, if you are licking envelopes for someone else,
you'll go out of your mind with boredom. Ergo, purpose makes the
difference.
Prager Power
Dennis Prager appears unafraid to use his power. As director (1977-83)
of the Jewish education camp, the Brandeis Bardin Institute in Simi
Valley, he was a strict disciplinarian, frequently kicking out people
who he thought had either a bad attitude, were overly argumentative
or disruptive. One was a philosophy student from Berkeley who was
questioning everything (1983). Prager tossed him. Another young
man was tossed for playing non-Jewish music. The young man eventually
became orthodox and is widely known today - Jewish musician Sam
Glaser.
When Prager feels that a writer has slandered him, Prager is unafraid
to threaten a lawsuit. He's done so on at least four occassions.
When a member of the audience is disruptive, asking overly hostile
questions etc, Prager is unafraid to request that security remove
the person. If a baby cries, Prager asks the parent to remove the
child from his lecture (though he offers the parents a free tape
of his lecture).
When crossed in ways that he views as inappropriate or disruptive
to his mission or disrespectful, Prager usually resorts quickly
to threats, legal and otherwise, or some form of force, such as
calling security.
When asked in 1998 for permission to tape his sermons at the Stephen
S. Wise synagogue and transcribe them for the internet, Prager responded
by threatening to call security to eject the person if he was seen
at the shul on Saturday morning with a tape recorder. Many other
persons would've responded to the request with a polite no but that
is frequently not Prager's way. Instead, he often resorts to wielding
Prager power (though frequently with sensitivity to minimize the
shaming of the object of his force).
This hastiness to using power has earned Prager a bad reputation
with many people who respect his mission to teach people right and
wrong. While few persons would question his right to use power as
a last resort, Prager's immediate reflex to use power causes many
folks who sympathize with his values to view him as arrogant.
Email: "Your post was remarkable -- more even handed even
as you indirectly reported on your own experience. However,
it is still subjective reporting, and a bit judgmental. "
Chrsdnld: I was there on the occassion in question, and this is
a GROSS mischaracterization of the event. The indivudual in question
took out a tape player after Prager had SPECIFICALLY announced in
advance that this was not permitted.
All lecturers have this legal right. They exercise it all the time.
Professors do so increasingly. It is an element of civil liberty.
Prager was speaking on his own time, in his own synagogue, with
his congregation. On private property. When asked nicely to desist,
this
individual began screaming loudly that all congregants were "brainwashed!!"
and that they were "a cult!!". So the nut was escorted
out. By a security guy
DP had hired to keep an eye out for......guess who? You got it.
Luke. The stalking mole.
That Luke feels civil rights should not be exercized is now obvious
-except in his own case. But the reason is less clear to the outsider-
it is because he has been almost exclusively the target of all legal
action Prager has ever felt forced to engage in, due to Luke's inability
to distinguish reality from fantasy, and due to his disregard for
accuracy in what he publishes
publically on Prager.
Luke ingratiated himself to Prager, then began publishing what he'd
learned in the process of that. He was asked several times to stop.
He even
agreed here to stop. And yet he continues.
The self procliamed "Matt Drudge of the porno industry".
A man who included links to his (and other) porno websites on his
"Prager Page".
A man who has been thrown out of -and has boasted of it- more Jewish
organizations than Spinoza.
A man who converted orthodox only to turn his back on the community
that opened their arms to him, and then used it against them.
Behold. Our Luke.
May he never become a fan of any of YOUR friends or family...
Salon
contains an interesting article on power and public figures.
Fred Branfman writes:
James Carville has emerged as a kind of courtier not only
to President Clinton, but to the institution of the presidency itself,
with his recent Time magazine attack on the press for asking questions
about George
W. Bush's alleged cocaine use. His advice to Bush -- that he
should ask reporters "What is there about no that you don't
understand?" -- bespeaks a common attitude among courtiers
and other sycophants to the powerful: that a leader's "private
life" should remain private, that the press should collude
in keeping it that way and that the only legitimate questions have
to do with public policy.
The most important reason for reducing the "zone of privacy"
around the president is simple: He or she is the only person to
whom we give the unilateral power to blow up ourselves and everyone
else on earth, and to send our young people into combat, and we
ought to know as much as we can about the person to whom we entrust
such formidable power.
In return for being granted the power to murder and maim at will,
as well as the perks of lifelong wealth and fame, ordinary politicians
running for president should expect to share everything about their
personal lives that will enable us to judge their character. No
one forces anyone to run for president. But if they wish to seek
the power to destroy life on earth, they should have no secrets
from the rest of us.
August 30, 1999
Dennis Prager opened his show by discussing the resurgence of malaria
because of radical animal rights organizations (on behalf of ospreys
and falcons).
It's been 27 years since the US stopped the pesticide DDT.
Prager says he values people in the third world more than he values
ospreys.
Prager asked for retching background music as he noted that the
radical group Physicians For Social Responsibility opposed DDT,
whose use would diminish malaria.
DP said that 371 scientists have signed a petition to not ban DDT.
DP: "One of the joys of being radical is that you can live
by kneejerking: Pesticide. No good. So what if children die of malaria.
"Many of these groups that have these massive mantels of moral
authority often have a heart of stone. There is nothing that can't
go too far, and these movements tend to go to far... As far as their
purest member."
About 300-500 million people a year get malaria.
Gil writes: 500 Million new cases of malaria each year. World DDT
ban puts third world at risk.
Environmentalists pat each other on the back for putting their lives
on the line for various forms of wildlife. Critics point out that
since the majority of environmentalists do not live in the third
world, their posturing results in the sacrifice of millions of poor
people, mostly children, at no risk to themselves.
While environmentalists deny the facts, they steadfastly maintain
the ends justify the means.
Great show, environmentalists.
Doug Hill: DP is talking monday morning about the scourge of malaria
in the world, and is accusing many environmentalists of disregarding
human life by working to keep 3rd world countries from using DDT.
He cited an article from the NY Times. (I'll try to find this on
the web).
He just claimed (9:53) that we could eliminate all malaria by using
DDT. OK, I think this was a bit of hyperbole, so here's my big question:
how much malaria would be eliminated by widespread use of DDT? What
would be the enviromental costs? Clearly this is a tradeoff we must
make. DP is
correct that this is a tradeoff we must face.
I wonder how the so-called "3rd world" are discouraged
from using DDT when malaria is such a scourge. I'm reminded of Amarta
Sen's
observation that no functioning democracy has ever experienced a
famine. (Hungry people have always been able to influence the goverment
to alleviate the problem.) Perhaps the real problem here is a lack
of democracy in the "third world" where these trade-offs
ought to be made.
Gil: DP warmed to his subject (after calls from Al who didn't want
to address the facts, and another from a racist who thought thinning
of the third world
population was a good thing). DP said that the problem with environmentalism
is when it evolves into a form of secular religion. Unlike the religious,
who acknowledge they take a leap of faith in their religion, the
adherents of such things as environmentalISM, feminISM, they will
not admit they've made that leap, and they become
dangerous. It's no surprise their arrogance and ignorance would
ultimately lead to the immorality of a children dying of malaria
every 12 seconds.
Caller: "there can be not too many seals, ospreys, falcons,
eagles, but there are just too many people. In this the environmentalist
and racist are on the
same page." DP commended this caller for putting the more virulent
strain of environmentalists in perspective.
Alan: Wasn't DP the one who is always criticizing the left for
mis-using the word "racist"? This morning DP engaged in
a bit of name calling himself. He took a complex issue - DDT and
malaria and the environment - and reduced it to racism and other
name calling. His use of race in this segment was dispicable and
ignorant; DP should be ashamed of himself. I would note that this
attempt to discredit those who favor conservation by pinning the
racist lable on them is a growing right wing tactic.
Some friends of mine live in northern California. In May you will
get bitten by mosquitos; by June you won't because the swallows
have returned and eat most of them. Eliminate the birds and you
start a real problem.
He accused those who disagreed with him with calling the scientists
in the article liers - no - we just disagree with them. Some of
them may well
depend on chemical companies for funding, some don't - scientists
selling out - never happens in DP's world. Doesn't matter. DP reads
one article
in the NY Times and becomes an instant expert - yet he never did
get it straight that the birds he was naming as being endangered
by DDT use are
resident in the USA and wouldn't be effected by DDT use in the third
world.
Gil - why don't you stop jerking your knee and figure out who really
benefits from the indiscriminate use of DDT - your E-dar is
failing you. Question: VP Gore recently sided with drug manufacturers
and threatened sanctions against South Africa if they
went ahead and manufactured anti-AIDS drugs on their own - they
can't afford the prices the companies charge. Without these drugs
millions in
the third world will die, many of them children. Where were those
on the right when it came to those chirdren's lives? (Note that
this is a far simpler issue - with none of the long term problems
inherent in the DDT issue. Not even profits were at stake here as
the countries can't afford the drugs anyway.)
The long term costs of the indiscriminate use of DDT will exceed
the costs of providing better technologies; his callers were cut
off before that
possibility could be mentioned. DDT is indiscriminate in its effect
and persists in the environment for decades at least. Beneficial
insects as well as birds are affected and DDT ultimately will work
its way into food sources such as fish. Public health officials
can be excused for being short-sighted as long as we don't take
their advice and fall into that trap.
To point out that much of the third world is over-populated is not
racist unless one believes we need more Europeans and less non-
Es. All of the
environmentalists I know believe that the USA and Europe are also
over-populated. This appears too subtle a distinction for DP to
grasp. As
most of us also favor providing more efficient and less harmful
vector control means to these poorer nations - even if it means
increased costs
to us (note DP didn't push for that) the racist label seems unfair.
BTW, he claims to favor more funding for National Parks, etc. When
has he ever done a segment on that? He won't because he will have
to criticize his
conservative Republican friends.
Gil, beware. DP's slippery ways seem to be rubbing off on you.
You know from experience he cuts his callers off. I gave him facts
and he responded by
appeals to authority and name calling and hitting the switch. The
same with the following caller who you failed to note - I guess
the temptation to link a racist and me in the same sentence was
too great. The racist was off-point and shouldn't have been put
on - if DP was honest and knowledgeable on the issues he would have
have the decency to note that.
Instead he used the racist to slander those who disagree.
The earth can only support so many of any
animal - human or non-human. It is only the foolish pride of humanists
(often pretending to be theists) that excepts homo sapiens from
that consideration. The number of humans that the earth should contain
is a proper subject for discussion. Attempting to quash the debate
by playing the race card only discredits those who do it.
From the August 28 NY Times article:
ASHINGTON -- It has been 27 years since the United States banned
the pesticide DDT, and the payoff is undeniable.
The peregrine falcon, once pushed to the brink of extinction, came
off the endangered species list this month, and the bald eagle may
soon follow. Brown pelicans are flourishing in Florida. On the shores
of
Long Island, the ospreys are back.
Now the United Nations is drafting a treaty that may lead to a worldwide
ban on DDT. But the negotiations, set to resume in Geneva next month,
are drawing opposition from an unlikely quarter: public health professionals,
who say DDT is necessary to stop the spread of malaria, a disease
that kills as many as 2.7 million people each year,
mostly children in undeveloped countries.
"A child dies of malaria every 12 seconds," said Dyann
F. Wirth, a malaria expert at the Harvard School of Public Health
and president of
the American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene. "That
could go up dramatically if we lose this important control tool."
Dr. Wirth is among more than 370 medical researchers in 57 countries
who are urging that the treaty allow DDT to be sprayed in small
quantities on the interior walls of homes, where it acts as a repellent
to the disease-carrying insects. The scientists argue that if the
pesticide, which is cheap and effective, must be eliminated, it
should be
phased out gradually, and only if Western countries conduct research
on the more expensive alternatives and help pay for them.
........
Shannon writes: In fairness to most humanists, Alan, I think many
of them (I hope I include myself in this number) are cognizant of
the absolute necessity of multiple species for the well-being and
survival of the human species and of this planet. The survival of
humanity depends on other animals and insects. I am
unaware of any Humanist commentator or authority that proposes humanity
at any expense.
I am unsurprised that DP exhibited a buffoonish lack of general
knowledge in the area of ecological science, though ultimately his
"debating" of the DDT
Vs Malaria issue belies an ulterior motive, that of trashing his
political and theological opponents. DP sees concern for the environment
as a
singularly left-wing secular issue, and simplistically caricatures
its proponents as caring more for Peregrine Falcons than third world
children. As
per usual in the dichotomous, dishonest, polemic purview of DP,
a complex issue is reduced to an us-and-them squabble in which those
who wish to
prevent a toxic and highly destructive chemical from entering the
environment are essentially labeled inhuman, inhumane monsters.
I'm constantly baffled as to why so many in this group regularly
tune in and call in to be insulted by this spite ridden man.
......
In his second hour, DP talked about religion. Because of court
rulings forbidding prayer in public schools, there will be a resurgence
of religion, but it won't be as tolerant as religion was when invocations
were allowed. Extreme provokes extreme.
Because we suppressed moderate religion, we will get immoderate
religion.
In his third hour, Prager discussed this story on the front of
today's LA TIMES:
Although parents once pushed to get their children into school
as early as possible--and definitely by age 5--it is increasingly
the vogue in affluent communities to wait until they are 6 or nearly
so.
The trend, which particularly affects
boys because of their slower development, is rife in elite private
schools where there is stiff competition for seats. Many require
that children turn 5 months before the September start of kindergarten--half
a year, in some cases, before the cutoff for California public schools.
As incoming kindergartners get older
in some communities, more anxious parents are wondering: Do we wait
or push ahead? When is a child ready for school anyway, and has
that target shifted now that kindergarten--literally, a garden of
children--has moved further from the original concept of a time
when children could develop freely through play?
Dennis read this email from a listener on
the air and his office has received many
requests to put this on the website.
Date: 1999/08/18
Subject: Soap
Attached is some correspondence which actually occurred between
a London hotel's staff and one of its guests. The London hotel involved
submitted this to the Sunday Times.
Dear Maid,
Please do not leave any more of those little bars of soap in my
bathroom since I have brought my own bath-sized Dial. Please remove
the six unopened little bars from the shelf under the medicine chest
and another three in the shower soap dish. They are in my way.
Thank you, S. Berman
Dear Room 635,
I am not your regular maid. She will be back tomorrow, Thursday,
from her day off. I took the 3 hotel soaps out of the shower soap
dish as you requested. The 6 bars on your shelf I took out of your
way and put on top of your Kleenex dispenser in case you should
change your mind. This leaves only the 3 bars I left today which
my instructions from the management is to leave 3 soaps daily. I
hope
this is satisfactory. Kathy, Relief Maid
Dear Maid,
I hope you are my regular maid. Apparently Kathy did not tell you
about my note to her concerning the little bars of soap. When I
got back to my room this evening I found you had added 3 little
Camays to the shelf under my medicine cabinet. I am going to be
here in the hotel for two weeks and have brought my own bath-size
Dial so I won't need those 6 little Camays which are on the shelf.
They are in my way when shaving, brushing teeth, etc. Please remove
them. S. Berman
Dear Mr. Berman,
My day off was last Wed. so the relief maid left 3 hotel soaps which
we are instructed by the management. I took the 6 soaps which
were in your way on the shelf and put them in the soap dish where
your Dial was. I put the Dial in the medicine cabinet for your convenience.
I didn't remove the 3 complimentary soaps which are
always placed inside the medicine cabinet for all new check-ins
and which you did not object to when you checked in last Monday.
Please let me know if I can of further assistance.
Your regular maid, Dotty
Dear Mr. Berman,
The assistant manager, Mr. Kensedder, informed me this A.M. that
you called him last evening and said you were unhappy with your
maid service. I have assigned a new girl to your room. I hope you
will
accept my apologies for any past inconvenience. If you have any
future complaints please contact me so I can give it my personal
attention. Call extension 1108 between 8AM and 5PM. Thank you.
Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper
Dear Miss Carmen,
It is impossible to contact you by phone since I leave the hotel
for business at 745 AM and don't get back before 530 or 6PM. That's
the reason I called Mr. Kensedder last night. You were already off
duty. I only asked Mr. Kensedder if he could do anything about those
little bars of soap. The new maid you assigned me must have thought
I was a new check-in today, since she left another 3 bars of hotel
soap in my medicine cabinet along with her regular delivery of 3
bars on the bathroom shelf. In just 5 days here I have accumulated
24 little bars of soap. Why are you doing this to me?
S. Berman
Dear Mr. Berman,
Your maid, Kathy, has been instructed to stop delivering soap to
your room and remove the extra soaps. If I can be of further assistance,
please call extension 1108 between 8AM and 5PM.
Thank you,
Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper
Dear Mr. Kensedder,
My bath-size Dial is missing. Every bar of soap was taken from my
room including my own bath-size Dial. I came in late last night
and had to call the bellhop to bring me 4 little Cashmere Bouquets
S. Berman
Dear Mr. Berman,
I have informed our housekeeper, Elaine Carmen, of your soap problem.
I cannot understand why there was no soap in your room since our
maids are instructed to leave 3 bars of soap each time
they service a room. The situation will be rectified immediately.
Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience.
Martin L. Kensedder Assistant Manager
Dear Mrs. Carmen,
Who left 54 little bars of Camay in my room?! I came in last night
and found 54 little bars of soap. I don't want 54 little bars of
Camay. I want my one bar of bath-size Dial! Do you realize I have
54 bars of soap in here. All I want is my bath size Dial. Please
give me back my bath-size Dial.
S. Berman
Dear Mr. Berman,
You complained of too much soap in your room so I had them removed.
Then you complained to Mr. Kensedder that all your soap was missing
so I personally returned them. The 24 Camays which had been taken
and the 3 Camays you are supposed to receive daily (sic). I don't
know anything about the 4 Cashmere Bouquets. Obviously your maid,
Kathy, did not know I had returned your soaps so she also brought
24 Camays plus the 3 daily Camays. I don't know where you got the
idea this hotel issues bath-size Dial. I was able to locate some
bath-size Ivory which I left in your room.
Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper
Dear Mrs. Carmen
Just a short note to bring you up-to-date on my latest soap inventory.
As of today I possess:
On shelf under medicine cabinet - 18 Camay in 4 stacks of 4 and
1 stack of 2.
On Kleenex dispenser - 11 Camay in 2 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of
3
On bedroom dresser - 1 stack of 3 Cashmere Bouquet, 1 stack of 4
hotel-size Ivory, and 8 Camay in 2 stacks of 4.
Inside medicine cabinet - 14 Camay in 3 stacks of 4 and 1 stack
of 2.
In shower soap dish - 6 Camay, very moist.
On northeast corner of tub - 1 Cashmere Bouquet, slightly used.
On northwest corner of tub - 6 Camays in 2 stacks of 3.
Please ask Kathy when she services my room to make sure the stacks
are neatly piled and dusted. Also, please advise her that stacks
of more than 4 have a tendency to tip. May I suggest that my bedroom
window sill is not in use and will make an excellent spot for future
soap deliveries. One more item, I have purchased another bar of
bath-sized Dial which I am keeping in the hotel vault in order to
avoid further misunderstandings.
S. Berman
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