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By Luke Ford
KABC Radio AM 790 Los Angeles. Noon.
Dennis Prager said that only five films in his life have kept
him thinking as much as Dangerous Beauty. "It is a film for adults
only. I am generally turned off by what Hollywood thinks is sexy.
This however was an ode, a life-affirming, sex-affirming, female-affirming
film."
Prager did not want to overly raise our expectations for the film,
for that would ruin the experience. He says that we should generally
lower our expectations. But this view recently backfired on him.
He admits that he gets the LA Times Saturday night to check to
see if his book is on the best seller list. Saturday night he found
it was not there.
Sunday morning his assistant Laurie said, "Congratulations, your
book is still on the best seller list." Fran, Dennis' wife, said,
"Who is nuts here?"
And Prager's book on Happiness was number four. Dennis had only
looked on numbers five through fifteen, because he did not expect
it to rise above number five.
Prager praised the piece by William Raspberry in the Washington
Post, a neo-liberal black columnist.
When it comes to race in America, "nothing's
changed."
This is an assessment I've heard from scores
of serious-minded people -- people who must know, at some level,
that it simply isn't true.
I'm speaking, for example, of people who
were involved in the struggle to enfranchise blacks in the South,
who won that struggle so overwhelmingly that a state as segregated
as Mississippi once was leads the nation in black elected officials,
and who still will say with great earnestness and sadness: Nothing's
changed.
Press them, and they'll acknowledge that
blacks who once were denied the right to vote are now holding electoral
office. But then they'll point to the Supreme Court's congressional
districting decision that makes it harder for blacks to elect members
of Congress and tell you that, while it may have become more subtle
in recent years, racism is racism and beneath the civil surface,
nothing's changed.
Prager compared the overstatements on racism, to feminist overstatement
on rape. When they couldn't find as much rape as they needed, they
changed the definition of rape to any sex that a woman later regrets.
And with sexual harassment. It used to mean, "sleep with me or you
are fired." Now it means creating a "hostile work environment,"
such as by posting a poster of a woman in a bikini.
DP calls it the March of Dimes syndrome. The organization was
started to fight polio. A vaccine was found, but the March of Dimes
did not go out of business. They moved on to the general issue of
"birth defects
" Same problem with the NAACP and the ACLU.
Civil rights and racism are not big problems in America, says DP,
but the organizations have not gone out of business.
Language is distorted so the activists can stay in business.
Dennis mentioned that Penthouse magazine offered Monica Lewinsky
$2 to pose, noted DP. If she was your friend, what would you recommend
to her?
Most people believe that she had something with the President.
She has not come out of this with much of her dignity intact. She
has enormous legal bills.
DP quoted Bernard Shaw, who once said to a woman, "Would you sleep
with me for a $1000. Yes. For $5. No, what do you think I am? A
whore? We've already established that. Now we're just haggling over
price."
DP said that many women have posed nude and gone on to respectable
careers. It has not the stigma that it used to have.
A man with five daughters, said that he would recommend his daughters
to pose.
Next caller gave a more nuanced response. He said that he had
a low view of her for sleeping with a married man. He thought that
adultery worse than posing nude. But if she refused the Penthouse
offer, he'd have more respect for her, for it would show that she
had more moral backbone than he thought.
Sex is the most powerful biological drive in the human being,
notes DP. He wants to write his next book on the issue.
DP: Why is she being offered this? Does she have the greatest
body?
A female caller remembered how in the 1960s, she was asked to
pose nude by Playboy. And she refused, for she did not want to have
her children view her that way.
A caller said that multiplying one's income 57X (Monica's example)
would make it worth it to pose. If the nation could increase its
standard of living 57x, what would it be prepared to risk?
DP points out that she poses a bigger price for posing than does
an anonymous girl from the Valley. No one will recognize that girl.
DP finds it a difficult question. She is already the butt of many
jokes.
Would posing for Penthouse diminishing her chances of marriage?
A past issue of Penthouse featuring Tonya Harding, sold many extra
copies. The current issues features naked pictures of Paula Jones.
Prager claimed that Paula did not pose for publication.
A caller raised the case of Europe
which has destigmatized
most sexual sins, and has few sex crimes. But Prager calls the continent
morally bankrupt.
DP: How many women would refuse $2 million to pose? She is single.
A caller said both posers and consumers of porn are weak. "Porn
is designed to weaken men to react physically."
Prager talked about his father Max, who while president of an
Orthodox synagogue and an honorable man, and still subscribe to
Playboy. "My father had more integrity than any other man I knew,
while growing up. Few of us are meant to be saints, but we can still
be decent and honorable."
Prager pointed out that every prostitute in the Hebrew Bible is
depicted positively.
Prager rejects the line, "She's sunk so low it doesn't matter."
DP: "We judge sexual matters more harshly than we should. You know
my argument with putting out signs, "We forgive you Mike [a murderer]."
But where is the forgiveness with sexual sins?
"For someone to turn down $2 million dollars, when she needs the
money, she deserves respect. Would she deserve contempt for posing
Penthouse? I don't know. But certainly not admiration.
A female caller said Prager did not understand how women feel
about sex. "That women have sex because they want love. While men
use love to get sex."
DP says male-female sexual desire is different. Men get more stimulated
by pictures of anonymous body parts. Women do not get aroused that
way."
Caller said she wanted sex just for sex, and did not need all
that lovey-dovey stuff. Caller said woman should get help from a
mature woman.
Prager says he is writing his book on sex with a mature woman
- his wife Fran. He says she is the biggest supporter of his writing
his next book on sex.
DP says that he feels sorry for Monica. The punishment is greater
than the crime. She did not deserve to be made a national joke.
Prager wondered if the news media, with its preoccupation with
Monica, helped cause her to pose, if she does, for Penthouse.
Prager read some jokes from Mad magazine about not discriminating
against folks with disabilities.
P. says that the religious telling kids they will go to hell for
masturbating is far worse than Penthouse magazine. He disagree with
the licentiousness of the left, and the aversion to sex (except
in the case of marriage), of the right.
A female caller got a "good point" from Prager when the caller
said that Monica should've known that she was playing with fire
when she played with the President of the US.
Movie Review
Bawdy Silliness Reigns in 'Dangerous Beauty'
By JACK MATHEWS, FOR THE TIMES
Los Angeles Times Friday February 20, 1998
The movie that arrives in theaters today
under the title "Dangerous Beauty" has been on and off Warner Bros.'
release schedule for nearly a year, having tested and rejected such
names as "Courtesan," "The Honest Courtesan," "Indiscretion" and
"Venice." None of the titles smacks of brilliance, but the studio's
confusion is at least understandable. The movie, both blessed and
cursed with inspiration, defies simple description.
Based on the biography of a 16th century
Venice courtesan named Veronica Franco, "Dangerous Beauty" is all
of the following: a "Tom Jones"-styled period sex romp; a bordello
version of "Romeo and Juliet" set against war, plague, political
collapse and the Inquisition; a costume drama; a peep show; a heretical
argument for guiltless passion over church doctrine; and a rousing
call for women's lib from the Joan of Arc of post-medieval call
girls.
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