Evan Gahr of Chimpstein.com
"When were you born?"
He chuckles. "I don't want to tell you."
I guess it was around 1966.
"Where did you grow up?"
"New York. Upper East Side."
"I read on your site that your father's a doctor. I think I've read everything on your site."
"Did that make sense to you?"
"It could do with some cleaning up and some unironic posting."
Later, I checked with Dictionary.com and find that "unironic" is not a word. I'd read it on theOnion.com, so I thought it must be true:
"Some what posting?"
"I don't know what that word means."
"It's the opposite of ironic. Saying it flatly. You should tell your story in an AP style."
"You're right. The thing I didn't get across was that Michael Horowitz lied to him [Evan's dad Herbert M. Gahr, MD a.k.a. self-described low class Jew from the Bronx]. Michael told two people that Hudson was wrong but he told my father that Hudson was justified. But that's a good word."
Evan Gahr was fired from the conservative Hudson Institute in April 2001. Here's the Washington Jewish Week (by Eric Fingerhut) May 2001 report devoid of all irony and ejaculation:
"How many siblings do you have?"
"One sister. She's a doctor. She's younger."
"Did you go to private schools?"
"Private. Columbia Prep. Other journalists who graduated were Jeff Toobin, Andrew Rosenthal (son of Abe), Nat Hentoff's daughter, and of course the avuncular and genial John Podhoretz."
"What clique were you in in high school?"
"We only had 46 students in the class. We were too small to have cliques. We had groups."
"What group were you in?"
"Just a bunch of guys who were not in the swimming team."
"University of Pennsylvania. History major."
"You graduated what year?"
"I don't want to tell you. I like to keep my age a secret."
I bet it was around 1988.
Evan has never been married and never had kids.
"Did you read that Mona [Charen] thought I'm gay?"
"Have you ever batted from the other side of the plate?"
"No. I don't mind if she thinks I'm gay so long as she doesn't think I'm a Jewish conservative."
"How were you raised religiously?"
"In one sense, I call it shiksadox, meaning don't marry one, but you can violate the other rules. That's unfair to my mother, father and grandmother. They clearly instilled in me an important sense of Jewishness, otherwise I wouldn't be doing some of the things I do."
"How often did you go to synagogue during the year?"
"Just on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur."
"Do you and your parents believe in God?"
"Were you in any Zionist youth groups?"
"No, I wasn't involved in any of that stuff. In high school, I was pretty concerned with Israel."
Evan's parents are conservative Democrats. "My father still calls feminists 'women's libbers,' even though that slang went out in the 1970s."
"You're a rich kid."
"Everybody at school had money but nobody had the need to flaunt it.
"After college, I trained at the National Catholic Reporter in Washington D.C. It's a leftist paper based in Kansas City."
Evan voted for Reagan in 1984 and George Bush in 1988. In 1992, 1996, and 2000, he voted for Ralph Nader. "I still think in some ways I'm conservative. The people I've gone after have defiled conservative values. I go after people on their own conservative nostrums. They say they want public shaming when someone does something wrong. I do my own version of public shaming by humiliating them via mass email and they can't stand it."
"Do you think Ralph Nader is an anti-Semite?"
"It's a stupid and useless question to ask if anyone is an anti-Semite."
Long pause. "I guess it's obnoxious. I think Israel can take care of itself. I don't think it has to be all quivering when someone insults it."
"Do you believe that Israel has a right to exist?"
"I was at the National Catholic Reporter for six months. Then I went up to John Podhoretz and said that I had gone to the same high school as him. I did one article making fun of all-women health clubs. They're illegal but no one cares. Then he hired me for Insight Magazine [from August 1991 to January 1995]."
"That's the Moonie funded thing?"
"Yeah, but people say that less and less, especially with the Washington Times [also funded by the Unification Church].
"Insight was wonderful. I had never been surrounded by so many like-minded people. It was so exciting being around people I had only read about in The New York Times. I was so ecstatic I didn't even get a bed for six months. I just used this mattress on the floor in Roslyn."
"What was your beat?"
"Liberal bashing. That's what I did for ten years straight until my thought crimes against humanity. I broke the house bank story a month after I was there. Then Roll Call stole it. In 1992, I broke my Hillary - PLO story. I reported that when she was at the New World Foundation [leftist], she had funded PLO front groups. I gave it to the Washington Times. They did an editorial. Then Seth Lipsky's Forward did a story. Then Eric Breindel at the New York Post did a big editorial. It meant the whole world to me to pick up the New York Post and read that 'Now Evan Gahr at Insight Magazine reports...'
"After Insight, I went to the New York Post editorial page to work for Breindel. I wrote editorials and a press column."
"What work were you best known for at the New York Post?"
"Liberal bashing. Going after Al Sharpton. The New York Times for being soft on commies. That kind of thing."
"How long were you at the Post?"
"Yeah. I tell people that I used to work for Eric Breindel and sometimes feel like I still do. I try to emulate him every day. When I did the AFM (Alliance For Marriage) story its supporters being in cahoots with radical Islamic terror groups...
"It took two months from when I reported it in the Jewish World Review until when the Washington Post picked it up. That was his time span for when he'd do an exclusive editorial before the rest of the media would pick it up. He was brilliant. His articles were pure logic. There was no way you could refute them, which is why people called him names when he said certain groups were soft on communists. His mother and father were Holocaust survivors, plus he had an excellent sense of humor."
"Do you still have friendly relations with him?"
"No, he expired in 1998 at the age of 42. Liver problems.
"Scott McConnell came in and bounced me from the Post. Then I was freelancing for the Wall Street Journal, The Washington Times, National Review, and American Enterprise Magazine.
"In March 2000, I met with William Bennett's then chief of staff Pete Wehner. He told me that Mona Charen was looking someone to help research her new book with the Hudson Institute. I contacted her. She'd already quoted from my articles on Al Sharpton and Hillary and the PLO. Then the guy from American Enterprise Magazine, Carl Binsmeister, more recently known as Carl "Mona thinks you're a fag" Binsmeister, or Carl "Fuck you with your lawsuit, Evan" Binsmeister, recommended for a job with her. She asked him if I was gay. To anyone who knows how I dress or what my apartment looks like must be very ironic.
"Despite her fears that I swung from the other side of the tree, I got the job."
"Was this an ongoing fear that she had with you?"
"It seemed to be an ongoing obsession. She told me that when she interned at National Review, it was all homos. Then Ken Weinstein, the Hudson Insitute Washington director asked me if Eric [Briendel] was gay. It's just a form of bigotry that has its parallel in another generation's attitudes towards blacks. They sneer at gays behind their back and in print say they don't want any special privileges for gays. Just no marriage. No special privileges like breathing. It's very ugly despite the humor of Mona thinking I'm gay. She's just a dumb cunt. That language even makes my friends wince but that's what she is. She's a dumb cunt. But it says something about the conservative mindset.
"Everybody's curious but in our society, you don't ask something that explicit. First of all, asking me if I were married is illegal under federal law."
"Did she ever catch you in a position where it could've looked like there was some homosexual activity going on?"
Evan laughs. "No. Again, it shows what a dumb cunt she is. Because I wasn't married, I was gay. She's supposed to be a big observer of the social scene. As a result of the sexual revolution, men are getting married older. Unlike women, there's no pressure on men to marry. There's no biological clock.
"People find this surprising given how I write or act on the phone, but I'm really kinda shy, or as Eric said, reserved. He had the right word for everything. I started telling some girls I met online that I was gay. That I just wanted to be friends. But it didn't last long because I started asking them what sized dress they are. Then one lie led to another. Then I had to say that I wanted to wear the dress. It just didn't work. But I tried it."
"What age girls are you chatting up?"
"Not like 13?"
"No. Though when she used that analogy, I think these people are the moral equivalent of pedophiles. They see someone who's just lost his job and they know they're doing something horribly wrong... They're dealing with someone they think is vulnerable and they think they can get away from it, then they get a rude surprise when I embarrass them in front of everyone and don't just wilt in the face of their abuse."
"Can you honestly say that your relationship with Mona Charen was entirely platonic?"
"Not only can I honestly say it, I'm proud to say it. It wasn't platonic. It was hateful. I find her sheer stupidity combined with banality fascinating. She's a bigger bitch than Lillian Hellman and a much less skillful liar. What does it say about the conservative world that somebody with no particular talent and is utterly pedestrian in every way can get this far and be on TV and all that. It shows that conservatives have affirmative action for women just like liberals have it, just that conservatives don't admit it.
"I sent around these emails. Why did you think I was gay? Were you worried I was going to have my way with your dog? A reference to Rick Santorum. She ignores them for like two years. I figured she would just deny it and then I would leave her alone.
"I say I'm David Brock without the poodle but I don't have a credibility problem.
"She didn't deny it. Then I started just ridiculing her all over New York and Washington. Finally, I call her up. I wanted to ask her something else. About the circumstances of my dismissal. I said I had some questions to ask her. She said, 'I'm not interested in your sexuality. That's not what I want to talk about.' What does that mean? That I think you're a fag but I don't care that you're a fag?
"These people live in the world of ideas. She acts like everything is a Crossfire, a Capitol Gang show. She was busted. You'd think that she'd say it was a misunderstanding or a joke. That she found out I had lots of girlfriends.
"First of all, it's a lie. Everybody's a little curious about what other people do. But you don't ask it during a job interview."
"How long was your telephone conversation with her?"
"It lasted until she had to get on to her broomstick and fly off to another appointment. Less than five minutes. None of these people can stay on the phone with me.
"You know the game 'Beat the Clock?' I'm going to play 'Beat the Jew.' Who can stay on the phone longest with Evan Gahr without yelling, cursing or calling his father."
"Who is Michael Horowitz?"
"Michael has the singular accomplishment in modern Washington of being the only person ever to badger and frighten the father of another player in the political stew."
"What's his day job at Hudson?"
"He saves persecuted Christians around the world but he wasn't too concerned about the Jew around the corner from his office.
"I started working for Hudson in July 2000 in New York. I relocated to DC right after Labor Day in September.
"The White House, according to Weyrich's written statement was asking questions about the matter of my employment on May 2nd. I was fired May 4th."
"Why was the White House concerned with you?"
"Paul Weyrich, in one press release from the American Jewish Congress, linked Paul Weyrich to the White House. They were worried about the political fallout from me calling him an anti-Semite. They called him and asked him to cool it. He said, if you can't handle this, how are you going to handle a real controversy? There were two people to shut up, him and me. They couldn't do it to him because he doesn't get federal contracts.
"On that Tuesday night, Herb London [president of Hudson] swore to the Forward that he wasn't going to fire me. Thursday he fired me."
"What is the Hudson Institute?"
"It is a conservative thinktank that has relied on government contracts since its inception, thus the vulnerability to White House pressure.
"Weyrich and I are now pals. He wrote to me right after I was fired and asked to meet with me. He made clear that he regretted the harm he had caused Jews. Then he accepted my invitation to go to the Holocaust Museum and went despite horrible physical pain from having about eight back operations that year. He essentially admitted within six weeks that he had been a demented anti-Semite but the Jews are still defending him.
"I asked [Weyrich] or suggested he get press coverage but he refused. I also asked most every Jew conservative in DC to accompany us and the only one who would was Michael Ledeen.
"Anyway, the irony as mentioned is that Weyrich essentially admitted he was a demented anti-Semite but the Jews still haven't forgiven me for calling him that. Which just shows despite their putative friendship with him they care about him as much as yesterday's piss (my grandfather's expression).
"My transgression here--for which they still abhor me--is saying something which they thought would upset their kosher coalition between neo-cons and the Christian Right, which is pure political expediency and enforced by those such as Bill Kristol, a malevolent liar, who actually, contrary to their supposedly fighting liberal prejudice, have utter contempt for the Christians they embrace as evidenced by Kristol privately telling Marshall Wittmann and Ken Weinstein that his remarks were a shocking outburt of bigotry then lying to the Washington Post and saying it was no big deal.
"Then you have those with condescending attitudes such as Michael Horowitz, who told Marshall Whitman when he was saying Pat Robertson is anti-Semitic that these people--Christians--are 'the salt of the Earth.'
"What a fool, sounds like an earlier era of condescending liberal saying 'the negroes are gentle people.' Salt of the Earth as if they all plow their fields with the churches in the yonder. Christian Right has people of all professions and classes etc.
"I asked Kristol and Horowitz repeatedly if the Jews killed Christ. They wouldn't answer. Very condescending. They think Christians would be offended by what they believe (no) but the reality is Christians would understand that Jews don't believe that otherwise they would be Christians, duh."
"But wouldn't you agree that Negroes are gentle people? Always singing and dancing. They seem so happy and to have such a natural sense of rhythm. Yet if one touches my daughter, I'm stringing him up by the nearest lamppost."
"Do you ever take dates to the Holocaust museum?"
"Like Seinfeld and making out in Schindler's List? No. I had never even gone before. I had never paid much attention to anti-Semitism before this controversy. It was supposed to be a two-day story. I'm the one who made it a federal case."
"I was a columnist for David Horowitz's FrontPagemag.com. I was busting on assorted black people, much to his delight. I originally did an article about Weyrich and submitted it to Front Page. He spiked it. I then gave it to the American Spectator. They used it. I then sent it to the Washington Post. Then they called me. I described what had happened with Horowitz. They wrote an article that Horowitz has spiked it. So for all this yelping that Horowitz was mad at me for being unfair to Weyrich, the reality is just that he was furious I had told the Washington Post. The issue was him, not Weyrich.
"Did I send you the thing about [a prominent conservative, not David] who doesn't wash his hands when he takes a piss? I know everything from their bathroom habits to their lying to the Washington Post. That's why they scream and curse and call me crazy. They can't engage my arguments."
Linda Chavez emails Evan August 3, 2004: "Evan, Does it occur to you that your obsessive behavior might be responsible for your being 'blacklisted'? You send out weird email messages to people, harass them on the phone, and then accuse people of blacklisting you. You need help."
Evan emails back:
Evan: "It's quite fascinating that all my mental problems went unnoticed when I was going after feminists, fags and uppity Negroes for ten years. I once spent two straight days in the Yale Daily News building going through every single issue from Hillary's Yale Law School days to look for incriminating material. For that I was a tenacious reporter.
"Notice that her email contains--to use an Eric expression--assertions not arguments. She doesn't explain why I'm not well and what the specific problem is.
"Her husband works for the administration. He's assistant secretary for Health and Human Services. In the beginning, she had been supportive. After the White House [got Evan fired], she explained she wouldn't say anything bad about Hudson. I kept asking her, did the White House say anything about me? She called me delusional."
"Have you ever dated a black girl?"
"Yeah. That was the other thing I wanted to bring up. I went to the Washington Times party in 1994 with this black girl. There was no racial tension except from other black women who didn't like her going with a white guy. With two notable exceptions, I've never heard any derogatory or sneering attitudes towards blacks in conservative circles. It's just towards gays. It probably was towards blacks earlier.
"One was New York Post editor Bob McManus. He used to call this self-help group 100 Black Men '100 Black Men With Their Parole Officer.' There are always little truths in humor. I do think that Jill [Abramson] is cute and soft and fluffy."
"Someone at Insight magazine [Charlotte Hays from Mississippi] would always make racist remarks to another Southerner, thinking he would appreciate them. He found it disgusting and shocking."
"Have you ever slept with a black woman? What was it like?"
"I don't want to answer a question like that. People reveal way too much of themselves in displays of pseudo-intimacy with others. I told you I went with the black girl to the Washington Times Insight party because it was relevant to making larger points."
"Have you met Jill in person?"
"You know that picture of me with a baby with a chimpa's face pasted on? I'm going to send that around as Evan and Jill's love child.
"In my other apartment, or cage as I call it, there was four years of worth of dust on the stereo cabinets. I wrote 'Evan & Jill' in the dust. I put the book, 'Who Killed Christ?' next to it."
"Father Richard John Neuhaus. Do you have a relationship with him?"
"I did until I went after him on the AFM story. He was cool. He was the only one who wouldn't hang up on me. I could ask him any question I wanted. On the first Muslim one, he talked to me. He said it was just the nature of alliances. But this time he wouldn't talk to me. It was post 9/11. It was more sensitive. I'm going to do more satirical calls. I'm going to call him and he's going to say, 'Who's this?' And I'll say, 'It's Pope John Paul II. I'm calling to confess for lying about Jews.'"
"Have you talked to a therapist about this stuff?"
"First of all, that word 'therapist' should be eliminated."
"I don't know if I want to answer that problem. It's on my Web site that Marty Peretz said I was horribly traumatized."
"Have you considered Scientology?"
"No, I'm Jewish, and this has made me a more serious Jew. The religion is congruent with me intellectually. I call myself a Jewish journalist. Actions matter more than thoughts. I've never done journalism reading minds. I've stuck to the written records."
"Why do you think there are so many Jews in journalism?"
"There are Jews in everything. Somebody at Columbia Prep said Jews have an elitist quality. My father said, that's because we're the best."
"Is Ann Coulter a slut?"
"It's on my Web site that she did two guys in one night when she was out in California talking about Clinton's moral depravity. I don't believe in the concept of slut.
"Ann blocked my emails right after I asked her about David Brock's charge in his book Blinded by the Right that she indulged anti-Semitism.
"Conservatives always talk about promiscuous homos? But they are silent on promiscuous "breeders" just shows this argument and others is a proxy for bigotry. So I decided to "out" promiscuous heterosexuals. GWU [George Washington University] girls are notorious. But I might want to do some more first-hand reporting. I had one GWU "friend," Doreen, who proudly described her sultry and revealing attire as "slut wear.""
"Were there a lot of gays working at Hudson?"
"Perhaps in the imagination of Mona and Ken Weinstein. Not that I noticed."
"How did Bill Kristol get involved?"
"Weyrich wrote his statement on his Free Congress Web site. Marshal Whitman is a big Kristol buddy and John McCain supporter. Weyrich and Kristol were having a big squabble over the Chinese - plane controversy in early 2001. Marshal saw it. He told Bill Kristol. Both Marshal and Ken Weinstein that 'Bill couldn't believe it.' His reaction was that this was a shocking bigoted outburst. Whitman told me that Weyrich had acted with malice towards Jews. I was then quoted as calling him a 'demented anti-Semite.' Then I got blacklisted by David Horowitz. The Washington Post called Bill Kristol and he outright lied to them. He said the whole thing was no big deal. Yet he had just told his friends that it was a shocking outburst of anti-Semitism. He lied for political expediency. That became the whole conservative party line. That I had overreacted."
"Why do you keep calling yourself David Brock without a poodle?"
"That's just a joke. A poodle is a stereotypical gay thing.
"Given a choice between kissing Mona Charen and Andrew Sullivan, I'd kiss [HIV-positive] Andrew Sullivan [prominent homosexual conservative columnist and advocate of same-sex marriage]. If that makes me a fag, so be it."
"Who would you rather be married to? Andrew or Mona?"
Evan can't decide. They're both so tempting. Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool. Loving both of them is breaking all the rules.
"When I call her a dumb cunt, it's for a reason. That's what she is and that's what she should be recognized as. She's never scrutinized. Instead she's exalted."
"Lawrence 'the girl' Kaplan. He's now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. I asked him about the circumstances of my dismissal. Conservatives are usually informed but there was a big gap in their reading habits in mid 2001. They all missed 30 publications who did articles about this. They don't know anything about it. He said he didn't know anything about it. He then provided my contacts to someone at Hudson who then gave them to Hudson's lawyer (Bob Brame) who favors capital punishment for homosexuals caught in the act. He was long tied to a Christian reconstructionist group (American Vision) who favored just that."
"What do you think should be the punishment for homosexuals caught in the act?"
"They should have to look at naked pictures on Mona Charen.
"That's the one topic my views have changed post-Weyrich. I used to be very anti-gay. Marty Peretz (publisher of The New Republic) told me not to be a right-wing gay basher. Then I learned the hard way that the real abomination before God is not as DuPont Circle (largely gay section of DC) but a few blocks south, colluding with Christian anti-Semitism and radical Islam. All the lies, and mean-spiritedness that I associated with the Left is crystallized in Jewish conservatives attitudes towards gays."
"Sounds like you were naive thinking that conservatives would be better than liberals."
"Yeah, I was naive in thinking that dishonesty was limited to one part of the political spectrum. I saw the Left as the repository of lies and intolerance. For a while, it was. In the 1970s, if you were a black conservative like Thomas Sowell, you were treated to real abuse. Now you can be a black conservative who has no talent like Armstrong Williams and you can get your own TV and radio show.
"The stated values of conservatives are good ones but they're not applied consistently. They're always yelping about how the truth is under assault from feminists and Afro-centrists on college campuses. Fine. The truth is under assault from the Vatican for lying in their document, 'We Remember.' It should be called, 'We Forgot.' About the history of anti-Semitism. It's a bigger lie than Clinton ever told. The cover-up is the same as what the Left would do with the Soviet Union and Alger Hiss."
"When did you become a registered Democrat?"
"I've always been a Democrat. My father told me to be a Democrat so you could have an effect on the elections. There were no Republicans elected in New York. I'm nostalgic for the traditional Democratic party."
"Did you ever become suicidal while you went through this tsuris?"
"No. If I was as crazy as they said, I could've been locked up and given some Thorazine."
"Were you ever institutionalized?"
"He has been a mentor since 1992. Nobody knew I was his biggest fag protege since Andrew Sullivan. He recommended me for numerous jobs. He called Conrad Black on my behalf. Then I discovered that The New Republic was part and parcel of this whole coverup.
"Right after I was fired, Franklin Foer knew I was fired. He wrote an article glorifying the Hudson Institute, Marshal Whitman, and Bill Kristol as defending free expression against conservative intolerance when they had just enforced the prime speech code of the Jewish Right, which is no criticism of the Christian Right. Until I spoke out, there had not been a single instance of one Jewish conservative or neo-conservative denouncing a member of the Christian Right as an anti-Semite or denounced their language as anti-Semitic. How can you say Kristol is an iconoclast if Kristol won't condemn Weyrich?
"Franklin Foer likes to show he's so hip. That he's sympathetic yet critical of conservatives. He wrote that after Pat Robertson made some anti-Semitic remarks in 1992, Bill Kristol and John Podhoretz jumped to his defense. First, the anti-Semitic remarks were in 1991. Second, there's nothing in the database about either Kristol or John Podhoretz jumping to his defense. Kristol was at the White House then as Dan Quayle's chief of staff. It's entirely counterintuitive that he would've been speaking out on his own. If he did, it would've been all over the news. John Podhoretz didn't do it either. Franklin Foer has a problematic relationship with the facts, as Eric Breindel would say. If Foer is making things up about this, does he do it on other cases?
"The only response [to Evan Gahr] was from Leon [Wieseltier] that I had "shitted up" his magazine."
"How did all this affect your relationship with Marty Peretz?"
"I haven't talked to him since . I don't know what to think. I'd like to think he's better than all these people. It must be a painful for him that his magazine became an adjunct to the only anti-Semitic fascist purge in modern Washington."
"You are calling what happened to you an anti-Semitic fascist purge?"
"Yeah. It had the power of the government."
"The New Republic has declined since Michael Kinsley left."
"The cliche is that journalism is the rough draft of history. The New Republic reads like the rough draft of a masters thesis. Every article is -- conservatives are right to criticize liberals but conservatives are wrong... There are 300 million people in the US but only the twelve boys of The New Republic know how it really is. Peter Beinart is a partisan putz. They always have to show that liberals and conservatives are both wrong and only they know how it is. In the last election, Peter wrote about conservatives yelping that the Democratic party has a quota system. Then he said, yeah, but Republicans have their own quota system. He quoted some obscure provision of Republican delegate selection to make his point. Fine, it's probably there, but anybody who knows this issue knows that Democrats have a notorious quota system dating back to 1972. It's nothing compared to the Republicans. When he quotes it to show that he's smarter than everybody, he's showing his own ignorance. I just happen to know this issue real well. I wonder if he does this with other issues."
"He knew all about me from breaking the Hillary - PLO story and for working for Eric but I never talked to him until that fateful night when he accused me of shitting up his magazine. I called him and said, 'Hi, this is Evan Gahr.' He said, 'Evan, I'm not talking to you.' He hung up. I called ten minutes later. I said, 'Why can't you stay on the phone with me?' He said, 'Oh Evan, you've caused a lot of shit at my magazine. Don't ever call me again. Do I make myself clear?' Then he hung up the phone. Big bad Jew. He doesn't scare me.
"These people don't impress me. The New York Times impresses me. The New York Times are serious journalists. Leon has a Ph.D. in Jewish medieval studies. He made Cornell West his personal negro punching bag. They condemned Cornell West for speaking at a function where there was Farakhan literature. This is the magazine, by virtue of Lawrence 'the girl' Kaplan, is now associated with an organization that purged someone for denouncing anti-Semitism. Cornell West doesn't have that to answer for. They ignored the AFM - Islam terrorism story, even though Peter and Leon's rabbi is Barry Freundel, who was a leader of the AFM coalition. The rabbi won't talk to me.
"In an article on Eric Breindel, Marty said he relished a good fight. So do I but nobody will stay on the phone with me. The only people who will stay on the phone with me is the so-called PC intolerant New York Times because they've done nothing wrong.
"Jonathan Chait writes about the Iraq war yet he can't even stay on the phone with me? He has to use the office manager to intercept his calls? This is the person who has to make sure no one takes too many AA batteries. Now she's doing double-duty resistance.
"Lawrence 'the girl' Kaplan writes about foreign affairs but he can't give out his fax number."
"Have you threatened physical violence on these people?"
"I'm a threat to their status, stature and prestige because I tell the truth about them.
"Leon Kass is at AEI now. I tried to interview him for the Washington Jewish Week. I asked him about the AEI purge. I was blacklisted by the magazine, barred from the facilities and lost my on-line column. AEI mag editor Karl Zinsmeister. Per my analysis at Osam Bin Chimpstein, the purge only makes sense in the context of White House pressure. The magazine had nothing to do with Weyrich; my database search subsequently was that they never even mentioned his name. No ties to the Christian Right. And Karl is not a hot head.
"Like everyone else, Kass didn't read for those few months and missed it in those 30 publications. Then I asked him more questions and he wouldn't answer. If you can't talk about a quasi-anti-Semitic purge by his own organization, why should anyone take him seriously on these big lofty moral issues about stem cells?"
"Do you read the Forward?"
"Yeah. J.J. is a first-rate journalist. He's the only one who followed up on my Holocaust Museum visit with Weyrich."
"Any other Jewish papers that you read?"
"Do you have any prominent Conservative literati who've remained your friends?"
"I've been blacklisted by the entire conservative establishment with the notable exceptions of The Washington Times and the Wall Street Journal editorial page."
"What have you been doing for a living the past couple of years?"
"I don't want to answer that question.
"I've been selling... Oh, I was going to make a Mona Charen joke but it wasn't a good one. All this humor takes a lot of thought."
"Have you spent time with David Brock?"
"We had lunch in Georgetown. We'd had similar experiences. He said that what happened to me was inevitable. It would've happened without Weyrich, which is probably true. It could've happened over the Pope Pious or Mel Gibson controversy."
"What did you think of the movie The Passion of the Christ?"
"I'm waiting to see it with Jill Abramson [managing editor of The New York Times]."
A phone keeps ringing in the background. Evan finally answers it: "Hello?"
"I'm talking to this guy on the phone. You know that."
"Because I'm using the cell phone."
"Yeah. Good. Bye."
Evan returns to me. "She answers her own phone. But all the boys at The New Republic are so precious, they need all their calls screened.
"It started off as a joke. I started flirting with her in emails, saying I'd burned all my sources at The New York Times. Can you be my new source? Can you be my Deep Throat?"
How could any woman not go for an approach like that?
"How did she react?"
"I haven't heard back from her but other people find it funny.
"Tom Friedman late last year smacked a reader after a speech. So I called her. 'Jill, does The New York Times have a policy on columnists smacking readers?' She said, you'll have to ask Gail Collins [head of the editorial pages]. 'I did. She wouldn't talk to me. I'm asking you.' She said, 'It's not my department.' I said, 'Yeah, but it's your paper. What is your personal view?' She said in this cute girly sing-songy voice, 'My personal view is not relevant.' Then I started to say, 'Is that like abortion? You are personally opposed to columnists smacking readers but you don't want to impose your views?' By that time, she had hung up on me. I was vanquished. Jill, I was really getting into it and then you stopped. It's not fair. Come back."
"Do you think she will come to her senses one day?"
"What do you mean come to her senses?"
"About what a great guy you are and come see The Passion of the Christ with you?"
"Then I called Andrew Rosenthal [Deputy Editorial Page Editor] and asked him, 'Does The New York Times have a policy about columnists smacking readers?' He said, 'You're postulating a series of facts that I am not sure are correct.' That's the New York Times crystallized into one sentence. We went back and forth. I wrote up the dialogue. Evan Gahr, insult thinly designed as question. Andrew Rosenthal, right back at you. Evan almost yelling. Then he says, call me at work. I said, this is at work. He said, I gotta go. Good-bye.
"Then I called him ten minutes later. 'Hey Andrew, did your father have a policy on columnists smacking readers? I thought he'd hang up but he just stayed on the phone. We went back and forth. He goes, I've got a paper to put out. Call me tomorrow. Good-bye.
"That's how a man acts on the phone. Jill acted like a soft and fluffy girl. If these Jewish conservatives can't stay on the phone like a man, they should at least hang up like a lady.
"That took slicing my head to get it exactly right. I've got to write it down.
"That Andrew would ten minutes later answer his phone. These Jewish conservatives won't answer their phone. I call up and ask for a fax number, and they hang up. I did an experiment. I called up The New York Times editorial page asking for their fax number. She goes, oh, which one? There are two different ones. There was no intellectual fatwa leveled against me. Jill was right. It [Tom Friedman smacking a reader] was just a silly and goofy thing. They had done nothing wrong."
"Where do you want to go from here?"
"I'm working on a book about the anti-Semitism in all this."
"How clued in are you to Jewish life?"
"I got a little more religious. I started to keep kosher most of the time. I started to go to synagogue more often although I stopped."
"Why did you stop?"
"Because all the girls disappeared from the synagogue."
"Are you a womanizer?"
"No. I'm too honest to be a womanizer. Girls always say, 'You're so smart and funny. You can't really be this conservative.' Yes I am. And I write them a 1500-word essay about the evils of feminism. Then I get negated when I tell them my true feelings about abortion."
"Do you think abortion is murder?"
"Ask Leon Kass. He's the great moralist.
"These people live in their own worlds. They can't differentiate between TV and reality. That is not the question up for debate. The question is, since it is legal under Roe v. Wage, should there be restrictions on it?"
"Have you ever encouraged a woman to abort your child?"
Evan laughs. "No. I don't think this sort of stuff should be used to evaluate someone's ideas."
"Have you ever lived with a woman?"
"No, that's bad. Conservative ideals are still good. Studies have shown that people who do that have a higher divorce rate."
"Do you believe in waiting until marriage before having sex?"
"What's good for my penis is not necessarily good for society. Things worked much better when there was that kind of social pressure. That's why people got married quickly. Now people can just fuck indefinitely. That's why 'relationships' go on and then implode. Feminism, for the most part, has been a disaster for women.
"This has made me a better journalist by helping me to look at the Right more critically. For instance, Bork wasn't borked. It's true that the People for the American Way commercial with Gregory Peck was sleazy, but the reason he went down to defeat was what was depicted accurately. Namely, his record opposed to basic civil rights. They went after him, not for abortion, but for being against birth control."
"How do you feel about rubbers?"
"Do you know who Jay Lefkowitz (White House Political Director)? He worked for Bill Kristol at the first Bush White House. He worked for Tim Goeglein when Tim was making phone calls about me and Marshal Whitman. Jay lied to me. He knew nothing about my dismissal. He says he hardly ever talks to Michael Horowitz (his cousin) at Hudson, the guy who harassed my father. I used to see Michael on the phone with Jay all the time.
"Jay's wife Elena Neuman (Neuman is a pen name, her real last name is Lefkowitz) worked at Insight Magazine (getting the job through a connection of his), she got pregnant. She told us the whole story about how Jay came back from the convention in 1992 and took her au natural. These are the people who believe in modesty telling us about Jay's preferences. She also told us how she did David Segal, who's now at the Washington Post, before she was married. How she lost her virginity the first week of college when she smoked pot at the same time. I'm going to out her. I'm going to out all the heterosexuals. Show that the lifestyle they live is depraved and perverted because they try to pass it off as normal.
"When Elena and Jay were dating, her mother and father got her her own apt on the East Side to spend time with Jay. I bet they did more there than light Shabbos candles."
"Have you given up shiksas?"
"No. The other fascinating part of this story is how Weyrich and I became such close friends. He's been providing me spiritual counseling and practical counseling."
"Has he brought you to Jesus?"
"No. If this were a movie, that would've happened. I told him, I found Jesus. He's wonderful but he's yours. I don't want him. He's made me a more serious Jew. He talks about things in Christian terms that I then translate into Jewish terms. We've started calling each other brother.
"Do you and Weyrich call each other nigger? Or aren't you close enough yet?"
"Funny. No, we don't. But the more relevant questions is whether Karl Rove calls Linda Chavez his bitch."
"A friend emails me: 'Good Evan Gahr interview but he sounds like less than a delightful character. Could be me, but I don't think he likes women very much.'"
"No, I like women a lot. Girls are soft and fluffy. Last time I was in DC, all my friends were girls."
"I feel like we're kindred souls. We've both been ejected from communities that had been home to us for a decade and people we thought were our friends turned their backs on us and it felt like the ground had opened up under our feet as we simply pursued what we knew empirically and existentially knew was truth."
"It's more than pursuing the truth. These people have done bad things they know they're wrong and it's quite blatant. Like Frank Foer or Michael Horowitz. It's frustrating to me because they haven't been busted thus far. But this is America; injustices are exposed relatively quickly. Not like the past when it took decades for the Tuskegee experiment to come to light."
"Why didn't you just lick your wounds and go on to something else after the firing? Did you feel like your whole conservative schtettle ejected you?"
"The dismissal was not some little internecine squabble in the conservative backyard over Jews and chimps. It was the only anti-Semitic fascist purge in modern Washington.
"Journalists being trained to be skeptical say when asked the White House gets people fired all the time. But that's not the case at all.
"The entire conservative establishment in DC, with the notable exception of the Washington Times blacklisted me. So did NR, NYPost Editorial Page.
"The big exception was the WSJ Editorial Page. I continued too write for them and they were the only conservative outlet to publish a critical article on Weyrich.
"Everybody says at first, yeah, the White House gets people fired all the time. Do they? When was the last time they got anybody outside government fired? Travelgate was their own employees and that was a ruckus."
Evan says he has been blacklisted by JewishWorldReview.com. The editor of JWR did not return my email seeking comment. I guess it is true.
"When I pressed him on the White House phone calls he threatened me with the Capitol Police. Then I called to find out his salary and he had the receptionist hang up on me. What is he scared of? Just think about it logically: We know the White House made at least one call about him. Hudson apparently was quite accommodating. That gives the White House incentive to call again. Read the stuff below and you'll see he had a great gig; with a web site that was well read. Why would he give that up--suddenly. If he had wanted to work for McCain he could have done it any time. Why then? He's certainly lazy. In about 8:30 am always left before 6 pm."
Daniel E. Lapin wrote from the Pacific Jewish Center in Venice, California in 1985: "Mr. Buckley, I am not sure that I fully understand the fuss about Sobran. The writing of Richard Cohen et al. strikes me as disingenuous. Sobran's "Pensées" in NR, December 31, 1985, on the other hand, laid the foundations of a dozen sermons in my synagogue. As you may remember from our brief meeting when you spoke for Brandeis Bardin Institute in Los Angeles, my rabbinic credentials are adequate.... If there is any way I can be useful to you, Mr. Sobran, or National Review, I would be honored. Insofar as there is something called anti-Semitism (as opposed to anti-Godism), I just don't believe Mr. Sobran is one."
I email Evan: "I heard this dating story about you: She was very excited he'd gotten tix, but then after about an hour of driving, she realized it was a high school production of The Producers."
Evan replies: "That's a comic exageration of the facts. Sometimes, I look for cheap dates because there is no correlation between the amount of money expended and what transgresses thereafter. One time I picked out of City Paper a college production of something. I think it was The Crucible. Then I changed my mind and we went to see an excellent play about blacks and Jews at the Kennedy Center."
Apparently at the behest of Ben Stein, the American Spectator blacklisted me earlier this year. They backed down, it seemed, after I talked about asking all their donors why they fund a publication that blacklists a Jew for speaking out. But now Wlady is ignoring and deleting my emails.
The bizarro thing is that I have never even written anything about Ben Stein; just my pointed questions about his refusal to condemn the AEI purge (his father was an AEI scholar) and the AFM-ISNA alliance was enough, it seems, for him to have me blacklisted. The sad thing is that I'm sending stuff that would be ideal for TAS, and stuff which makes points and tackles subjects that others miss (which is my specialty.)
Here's one example; the seminal issue for conservatives commies in this country and how liberals whiteash them. But it seems all that counts less than Ben Stein, and his little vendetta. For conservatives the personal is political also.